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How can decentralized social systems like handle political / social attacks?

How does the handle new instances that in some sense conflict with the values of existing instances?

I imagine lots of people are arguing about this, but I'm not seeing the debates. Are they in private for strategic reasons, or am I just looking in the wrong places?

Is there a way that people (like me) trying to develop future decentralized systems can learn from current struggles?

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@sandro Some of it may be blocked by your instance admins. Instance blocking seems to be the trend now days.

@jordan31 I'm the instance admin, but maybe the hosting service I'm using is doing it, or maybe it's happening automatically somehow.

More likely I'm just not following the right people and not reading enough. I really just want the summary.

@sandro Well i believe Mastodon software blocks them now. I could be wrong on that. But I think this is the reason there are a Gab forked version of mastodon.

@sandro The way I think about it is the fediverse is the best system so far to handle these different political views within the same network. It functions like a city or a region where different groups of people with different opinions can co-exist, talk to each other or ignore each other without breaking the general feeling of one network.

@sandro we just block them and share the info on why to block them and trust that within a day that instance will be cut off

this has worked surprisingly extremely well

@sandro trusting that the community will help the community usually works
i do wish there was better ways to group posts together because unfortunately, hashtags have been...ineffectual

@sandro Currently the blocking system seems to be holding up. People send reports of anything suspicious to the admin and instance blocks can happen from there.

Sometimes blocks are controversial, but any controversy blows over after a few days.

Political attacks are more of a problem on smaller or self-hosted instances where the curation effort isn't pooled. With fewer sentries on watch spotting political attacks becomes harder.

@sandro I'm very much using this alt account from my main personal mastodon account purely to help organize admins, and app owners to band together under the umbrella organzing tag of #IsolateGab to do just that. Happy to answer questions I can publicly, or others via DM.

@sandro We repost, and highlight almost all our work and interactions publicly on this account, you can see a history just by looking back: todon.nl/@isolategab

@sandro You're going to see several talks on this topic in just two weeks in Prague at RWoT and at AP Conf.

Talk to @cwebber and myself about our work.

Both @cwebber and I seem to be working on our talks today.

@emacsen @cwebber

Will slides, video, or a written version be available? I'm not coming to Prague because RWoT and ActivityPub aren't sufficiently aligned with how I think decentralized social is going to have to be done for full adoption. (You could also read that as me being a bit antisocial, and kind of burnt out on conferences after travel every-other-week for a long time) If there were a conference on decentralized trust-and-safety, though, I'd be there.

@sandro @cwebber It's my understanding that AP Conf will be recorded.

As for the papers and explanation, @cwebber and I have a podcast called Libre Lounge and we discussed some of our ideas. Papers linked in the show notes:

librelounge.org/episodes/25-ma

@sandro @emacsen I wish you would have registered because I think decentralized trust and safety are going to be a major topic of conversation at this year's apconf! Oh well... we will miss you!

I guess you and I should meet up IRL sometime soonish? We do live in the same state IIRC...

@sandro -- tolerance. censorship is censorship. lets everyone speak. if nothing illegal is happening, no harm is done.

@sandro Banning together to isolate a few bad actors will eventually leave the ecosystem in an echo chamber.

Curation and tolerance is the path forward, not authoritarianism.

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